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July 5, 2007

Show Notes: 017 - Prologues & Epilogues. Who needs 'em?


Description: It's Will Write For Wine...the bra-burning episode! Sam and Lani disagree about prologues and epilogues, screw up both the D and E block, and get on their soap boxes over the marginalization of women writers. We get political! And a little drunk! All in all, not a bad episode. Oh - and we insult Michiko Kakutani, and are grateful that she has no idea who we are.
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What are we drinking?
Lani had a 2006 Principato Bianco from Italy. $29 a magnum, if you buy it at Olive Garden. $7.99 online. 11% alcohol.
Wine notes: Light. Lemony. Yummm.
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Sam had a 2004 Smoking Loon Syrah from CA. $10, 13.5%
Wine notes: With inky purple color, this wine reveals scents of wild strawberry, mocha, and caramel with touches of sage and rosemary. The flavors burst through with intense blueberry and strawberry jam notes wrapped around rich French oak and finishing with touches of milk chocolate, sweetened cranberries, and savory herbs.
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Shout-outs & Shout-offs to:
Lani: Shout-off to the Olive Garden, for the 400% markup on your wine. Greedy bastards! And a Shout-out to the Smart Bitches for pointing out Erica Jong’s call to arms for female writers to protest their ghettoization in the world of literature.
Sam: Shout-out to the fabulous Adrienne Pierce. To Barbara for the great online games site.
Listener question:
From Stephanie Kurze: Everyone talks about how important scene and sequel is but I have never heard any one actually explain what it is or how to make sure you're doing it properly. Can you help or do I need to know the super secret hand shake first?
We Recommend!
Lani recommends: Net Flix
Sam recommends: Graphic novels
This episode’s theme:
Prologues & Epilogues. Who needs 'em?
Random Etcetera: Music Appreciation
Write In: The week’s progress
Lani: Zip. Zadda. Zilch.
Sam: Zip. Zadda. Zilch.
Last Call:
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This is Lani & Sam saying if you can’t write for money, then write for wine.
Apologies to: To the French for no good reason. All you Prologue and Epilogue writers out there. Olive Garden for calling you greedy bastards, but really, 400% markup? Michiko Kakutani, you are great, we love you, yes totally sucking up. Erica Jong, sorry but it's your battle. Harry Potter fans, do not email us unless you have a damn good argument.

Music:
Stress – Jim’s Big Ego (open; close)
What? – Zipolite Rag – Justin Gordon (PSA)
Lost and Found – Adrienne Pierce (TFQ)
Raven’s Theme – Tom Dishaw (Sight Unseen)
Go Fish – Big Money Grip (Websites Promo)

Our voice:
The Amaaazing Wanda Woodard

Posted by Samantha at 10:14 PM | Comments (3) | TrackBack

Comments

I read the Erica Jong article you discussed when it was published and felt indignant. Maybe more than you did. Even though you say this was the bra-burning episode, it really seemed that you were saying, "The NY Times, who needs 'em? Not us!"

The thing that puzzles me the most is independent book stores who turn their backs on romance novels. Or carry a token one or two. They're turning money away, aren't they?

And why should writers of sad stories get more respect than writers of stories that make us feel good? It's easier to get someone to cry for cheesy reasons than to get an honest laugh. But then, I'll forgive a lot if an author makes me laugh.

I think that science fiction has come a long way since it was all pulp magazines. Not that cheesy sci fi doesn't still get published but most sci fi is better than it's covers lead you to believe. And it's all stand alone titles published with the author's name on top--not the series name on top. But there is still lots of series (or whatever you call harlequin type publishing) romance out there as well as the stand alone titles.

It's a sort of Catch-22 thing--with the series, it gives new writers more chance to get published than in a genre that doesn't have that. But the existence of harlequin, etc. creates less respect for the entire genre. Why is that? Because there is a formula that has to be followed for series books, maybe? What do you think?

Posted by: Sara C. at July 8, 2007 10:57 AM

You're right, Sara - about all of it. Which is why I feel like I should be angrier about it, but in reality, I'm not. I mean, romance writers get access to their readers. The literati may have huge platforms upon which to wail about the existence of romance... but we've got the readers. So as far as I'm concerned, I guess, we've already won. I care about the readers, I have them, so I really don't give a crap about the literati. I think it's a shame that some independent bookstores won't stock romance, but that's the glory of being an independent bookstore - you stock what you like. And I can't stay mad at them, because I love them too much. I think the only thing I can do is write the best books I can, and support my friends who are writing great books. I don't know - I'm just not terribly indignant about it. Now you want to hear a fight, you should have been there for the discussion Sam and I had about ARCs afterward - we're gonna have to bring that to a broadcast one of these days. Fight! Fight! Fight! :)

Okay everyone - Sam's going to Dallas this week - be sure to pop in here and wish her a nice trip!

Posted by: Lani at July 8, 2007 6:04 PM

Ooh, I want to hear about arcs! I do, I do. Especially if there is fighting involved.

And I want to make a couple of recommendations:
1) Plain Janes by Cecil Castellucci (or some close spelling approximation) for graphic novel readers everywhere. The new Minx line rocks.
2) Bonterra Chardonnay--yum.

Posted by: Sara C. at July 9, 2007 12:36 PM

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